steel and osb
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21 Jan 2010 09:24 AM
Anybody make a steel exterior, osb interior panel?
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21 Jan 2010 09:33 AM
Yes there is  - a "Half-Snap" but it has poor span capablity
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21 Jan 2010 05:43 PM
Thanks Chris,
I was thinking for cold climate walls, I'm still in the trussed roof camp for roof structure so span capability isn't critical.
Is there a big cost premium?

PS saw what looked like your panels for a beer distribution center cooler build in wi, you didn't happen to supply did you?
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21 Jan 2010 10:14 PM
You don't see too many SIPs utilizing two different facing materials because each facing material has it's own thermal expansion characteristics and are not always compatable when combined into one panel. For instance an OSB facing one side, Steel the other side would not be stable and the mismatched facings would cause the panel to bow out of shape.
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22 Jan 2010 07:37 AM
Greentree;

I have not used the 1/2 snap since 1994, I think a better alternative (if you insist on OSB) is to have the OSB mfg laminate a metal liner face to one side.
Yes there is a premium, it is not somthing we are involved with any more so I can't help with the cost.
I have used the liner faced OSB over a low clearance crawlspace.
We have several crawlspace situations in the near future where we will utilize a 8" steel skin floor panel with  field installed fibercement wearing surface for flooring.
I like this set up because it accomplishes the floor framing, insulation and vapor barrier all in one step. It also leaves a clean white sealed ceiling in the crawlspace area.

I got off course from the original question about walls , but  thought was worth mentioning, I am not sure why you are trying to use a metal/OSB hybrid. Just go with one or the other.
I agree with Simon that the two together is unstable

PS: not our beer cooler, probably Kingspan who also has a "shadowline" face but uses a PU core
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22 Jan 2010 04:03 PM
Chris, how is the fibercement board adheared to the steel SIP?
Since it is in the field, I assume it is not done in a press, so I am assuming some type of thinset? Can you PM me the specific one
if you can't put it here?
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22 Jan 2010 04:58 PM
Bruce;

even our panel is not done in a press,  it is done in a continous line with fast setting adhesive.
we view the fiber cement as a floor underlay and place it perpendicular to panel joints for additional strength, it is glued with PL® Premium Polyurethane Construction Adhesive and screwed to skin,  prior to interior wall framing

To set flooring  --- ceramic over top use thinset, wood floor - adhesive, carpet/pad - tack strip
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22 Jan 2010 05:37 PM
Thanks Chris!!
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