Insualted PEX
Last Post 07 Feb 2010 10:49 PM by arkie6. 2 Replies.
Printer Friendly
Sort:
PrevPrev NextNext
You are not authorized to post a reply.
Author Messages
juddspaintballsUser is Offline
New Member
New Member
Send Private Message
Posts:17

--
07 Feb 2010 07:45 PM
I'm not entirely sure what section of this forum to post this question in.  For money reasons, I've determined it unwise for me to spend upwards of $20k for a geothermal unit in this house since I won't be here forever (5-10 years) to really reap the benefit of the payback.  I'll give geothermal a shot when I build my next house. 

I've determined I'm going to use an outdoor wood furnace to heat this house.  I can get an EPA Phase I certified model for under $7k that is more than twice the recommended size for heating this house (so I can heat my detached garage too!).  I won't be smoking out any neighbors and I have an unlimited supply of free split mixed hardwood.  It almost seems like a no-brainer for my situation, especially with the 30% (up to $1500) tax credit. 

Another plus for the outdoor wood furnace, in my opinion, is the fact that I can do 100% of the installation myself.  It's fairly simple for a handy person to be able to install, and I have the advantage that I will be installing the exact model that my parents use for their house, so I can use their setup as a template for installing mine.  It does DHW too .

I'm researching insulated PEX though.  I'll need roughly 200' to go from the furnace into my basement, and from the furnace into the garage as separate loops.  The best way I've heard of people installing the water pipes is to use corrugated drain pipe (without holes) to run each set of lines through to and from the furnace.  I'll need a 1" hot and 1" return line for the heat in the house and also for the heat in the garage, and then 3/4" hot and 3/4" return for the DHW.  One set of 1" pipes and the 3/4" set of pipes are both going into the house, so they can both be inside one corrugated drain pipe together, and then the other set of 1" pipes can be in their own drain pipe heading from the furnace into the garage.  Each pipe needs insulated from each other, however, since significant heat transfer can occur between the hot line and the return line over a 100' (or so) distance.  I expect water temperatures to be no more than 200 degrees F in the hot lines.  What would be the best way to fit 2 1" lines and 2 3/4" lines (and a 12/3 wire) into a corrugated drain pipe and insulated all 4 pipes from each other?  Worst case scenario, I could put the DHW and the house heat lines in separate corrugated pipes in the same trench.
toddmUser is Offline
Basic Member
Basic Member
Send Private Message
Posts:252

--
07 Feb 2010 08:35 PM
You should ask this question at hearth.com after searching its archives. The site has all answers on wood heat.

Bigger isn't better in wood heat. An oversized OWB will spend too much time idling -- wasting fuel and polluting no matter how efficient the EPA says it is once it kicks on.
arkie6User is Offline
Basic Member
Basic Member
Send Private Message
Posts:228

--
07 Feb 2010 10:49 PM
It looks like 200' of insulated 1" PEX is going to be pretty expensive if you buy it pre-made:

http://cgi.ebay.com/200-INSULATED-PEX-2x1-OXYGEN-BARRIER-PEX-RED

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-200-Insulated-Furnace-REHAU-Barrier-PEX-Pipe
You are not authorized to post a reply.

Active Forums 4.1
Membership Membership: Latest New User Latest: CRBconstruction New Today New Today: 4 New Yesterday New Yesterday: 16 User Count Overall: 17265
People Online People Online: Visitors Visitors: 701 Members Members: 54 Total Total: 755

GreenBuildingTalk

Welcome to GreenBuildingTalk, the largest, most active forum on green building. While you can browse the site as a guest, you need to register in order to post.

Register Member Login Forum Home

Search Directory

Professionals Products

Get Free Quotes

Tell us about your building project and get free quotes from green building professionals. It's fast & easy! Click here to get your free quote.

Site Sponsors

For Advertising Info:
Call 866-316-5300 or 312-223-1600

Professionals Serving Your Area:

Copyright 2010 by BuildCentral, Inc.   Terms Of Use  Privacy Statement  Free Quotes  Professional Directory  Advertising Programs